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Sudden Buggery
Swift Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.11 10:05:00 -
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CCP Tallest wrote:Permanent war decs will be fixed in Retribution.
We have made it so that in a mutual war, the original aggressor has the option of retracting the war.
And by "we have made it so", I mean Punkturis has made it so.
It was heady days when these wardecs came out. We got the first assist in EVE on a dec which we copped by troll-o-loling some very angry Russians in their wormhole. I can't remember why we dropped it from being mutual, but it did occur to me pretty early on that when alts of Moar Tears were joining Dec Shield something was going wrong with the war dec system. It's the katamari thing, really, decs can be katamari'd into one organisation which never drops a dec ever, so it basically turned the old system on its head; the girefer became the defender except it was free and forever and sticky.
Creating a permadec possibility was stupid. But the idea of consequences is not.
The whole problem with the wardec system is that it is a system which allows non-mutual wars, aka griefing. This isn't a defense of carebearing as a life choice or excoriating people who gain enjoyment from the tears of others (people who know me will know I find tears piquant delicacies). But it's just the way the people who play this game are: intelligent (in the main), cunning (in the minority, but thats all it takes), creative, evil and greedy. If you let an EVE player loose on any system, they will find a hole and strap on a chilli-coated pineapple to exploit the hell out of it, for maximum tears.
In allowing wars, it allows people's griefing to happen. You used to be griefed by 0rphans, More Queers, Pendulum of Dumb and others declaring war on your corp when it was new, was growing (get on to to eve-who's top ten growth corps, its going to be yours), when you spammed Recruitment too much, etc. If your corp was reasonably well run, people were realistic and the leadership were competent and dedicated, it meant absolutely nothing; you'd ride out a week or two and the wars would go away. Month max of blueballing them and they would drop.
Now, the griefing is on the defensive. Perma-mutual is one half the problem, the other half is the katamari problem. Together, you have a giant space dungbeetle pushing a star-sized solar mass of crap into the griefer's corner. It has no doubt stopped the former predatory griefing of noob corps run by noobs, because eventually the serial griefers will get caught by Dec Shield and similar when they run across a CEO with their in-game browser open to the forums instead of cat photos.
The problem is that when the katamari of PVP lands in your lap, leaking a deluge of tears and PVP on tap, of course you won't give it up. You can't ever be blueballed into dropping the katamari dec due to boredom.
So I guess it is back to the old system of opportunistic griefing decs, but with people able to holler for a hand...which is fine, to my mind. Try to gather some tears and pad your killboards with badgers, and if someone taps out for help, run away to shoot noobs.
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